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mrmoosehead

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Been looking at where it is wet now. I think it's coming through the sliding door rail on the side of the van, now.
Where it is coming in, I was worried it was my water filler hatch, but it's above that, and probably coming through from the runner. I'm guessing that hasn't been sealed properly either. Will need to remove a whole load of wall to get to the bolts holding that in place. But had allowed for having to remove things in the future. Frustrating.
 

BigAldo

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If its running down the outside panel, and getting in behind the door runner, can you put a thin bead of clear sealant along the top edge of the door runner?
I've done this along the top of all the plastic side mouldings to prevent water ingress through the plastic mounting clips. Much easier than trying to seal the individual clips, and no disassembly required.
 

mrmoosehead

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If its running down the outside panel, and getting in behind the door runner, can you put a thin bead of clear sealant along the top edge of the door runner?
I've done this along the top of all the plastic side mouldings to prevent water ingress through the plastic mounting clips. Much easier than trying to seal the individual clips, and no disassembly required.

I could. But this is a new van. Before I build anything more on that side, I need to be sure where the water is coming in from and make sure it is sealed.
Not very impressed with some of the build quality from the Sevel factory right now. :mad:
 

Sandbagsid

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Water is always a problem as it penetrates through the slightest tiny gaps, hopefully you can sort it without to much trouble just bruddy annoying on a new van.
 

mrmoosehead

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Water is always a problem as it penetrates through the slightest tiny gaps, hopefully you can sort it without to much trouble just bruddy annoying on a new van.
Part of the problem is that parked on my drive, it is canted slightly back and to the right, this means water collects in the side door recess and mechanism more that it would normally. However, if I wasn't parked like that, I'd never have found these issues.
 

mrmoosehead

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Hmm. Have found that current leak is actually the water filler port. Despite everything i did to ensure a good seal, and lots of sealant, the curve of the van wall left a tiny gap at the top. Because of the cant of the van on the drive, water sat in that gap and somehow found a route in, and soaked into the ply wall next to it, up as well as down. Sealing of moisture barrier means the water couldnt get out, once in.
So have taken filler port off and currently drying area around it before another attempt to seal it properly.
Just goes to show: no matter how well you think you've done it, water will still get in. So i guess it's a good job i found it before i made it even harder to remove walls etc

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mrmoosehead

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Turns out it might not have been the filler cap
Not a good day. Water is still getting in on the nearside behind the door. It's coming in through some part of the side door or runner, into the frame and out inside just behind the side door.
It's going back to the Peugeot dealership for the 4th time next week. So I've had to dismantle the walls around that area. They have it for almost 2 weeks to find this and sort it.
peugeot uk have ignored my complaint and messages.

At what point do I write off the hours and money I have spent on this poorly built Sevel van?

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egg-fried-rice

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Oh, that’s really frustrating. I thought this was behind you. Not only is it bad it’s also setting you back a long way behind schedule.

If I was to guess, I would say it’s coming in along the top door rubber seal (which I think you already suspect) from there it travels. Could there be a slight “kink” in the rubber seal or is it lifting a little (it would be pretty much invisible)? This is the part of the rubber seal that has metal inside it. You could try removing the top section and squeezing together the rubber that pushes onto the vans metal “lip” where it grips thus nipping up any kink or tiny gap. Another suggestion would be to get some clear silicone (none setting/ looks like grease) and smearing it along the vans metal door seam or inside the slot in the rubber seal maybe better, then reapply. (Silicone would be inside the rubber seal and wouldn’t be visible).

I would be tempted to mix powdered chalk (or baking flour) and cover (dampen and apply) the vans framework around the door area (not the door). Then get the hose pipe out and you should see a trail if it’s coming in there.

Theres also a metal seam joint about half way up the side of the van inside the door opening section (not the door). Mine isn’t flush on the corner and I can see it’s had factory sealant added to seal. A tiny hole there would lead directly to where your water is coming in.
 

mrmoosehead

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Oh, that’s really frustrating. I thought this was behind you. Not only is it bad it’s also setting you back a long way behind schedule.

If I was to guess, I would say it’s coming in along the top door rubber seal (which I think you already suspect) from there it travels. Could there be a slight “kink” in the rubber seal or is it lifting a little (it would be pretty much invisible)? This is the part of the rubber seal that has metal inside it. You could try removing the top section and squeezing together the rubber that pushes onto the vans metal “lip” where it grips thus nipping up any kink or tiny gap. Another suggestion would be to get some clear silicone (none setting/ looks like grease) and smearing it along the vans metal door seam or inside the slot in the rubber seal maybe better, then reapply. (Silicone would be inside the rubber seal and wouldn’t be visible).

I would be tempted to mix powdered chalk (or baking flour) and cover (dampen and apply) the vans framework around the door area (not the door). Then get the hose pipe out and you should see a trail if it’s coming in there.

Theres also a metal seam joint about half way up the side of the van inside the door opening section (not the door). Mine isn’t flush on the corner and I can see it’s had factory sealant added to seal. A tiny hole there would lead directly to where your water is coming in.

The seal was faulty. That has been replaced. It's not coming in there.
Last time it was in, they found that the welds on the top door runner hadn't been sealed properly, so sorted that. This leak is either still related to that, or the door runner in the middle.
It's coming out in the horizontal beam. Right at the front near the first bolt that holds the runner to the side of the van
Addtionally, i now have a rain gutter above the door, which stops most water going into the door recess, which makes it pour down the back over the moddle runner.

Bear in mind my drive mkaes the van tilt back to the rear offside corner.
 
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mrmoosehead

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Update: it's been in the garage all week. They're pretty sure there is a bodywork issue above the sliding door with missing sealant or open spot weld holes. Water getting into the internal frame of the van.
They can't do anything about it, so they have referred it to their bodywork specialists.
Awaiting a response on whether they think they can sort it out.
If they can't....?
 

Pat & Ola

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What a frustrating thing to be dealing with. I hope the bodywork specialists can come up with a lasting solution for you.
 

mrmoosehead

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Finally got a bodyshop to agree to look at it. They were pushing back because it was a camper conversion. I explained that nothing on that side was stopping them accessing the area.
But they've insisted on a 40 quid inspection fee which will be refunded if they pick up the warranty work
Next available appointment was 12th dec. This is the next nearest place, being a 45 minute drive away.
Found a helpful person at customer services finally, after pushing and pushing. But apparently their hands are somewhat tied in what they can do as all the warranty stuff must be done through dealerships.
Next nearedt dealership, if bodyshop won't do anything, is 1.5 hours drive away
 
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